Discussion:
temp files location
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Wade
2010-05-05 19:54:00 UTC
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My config file has tmpfiles = C:\temp (a folder I install)
also I have progwork, sortwork, editwork the same.
For years, all the .tmp files went into C:\temp and were deleted in the
program when appropriate.
Now, some offices have all these files going into the default folder on the
server, and some have them going into appdata/local/temp.
Why doesn't my config file control all these? It used to.
Bernhard Sander
2010-05-06 09:58:39 UTC
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Hi Wade,
Post by Wade
My config file has tmpfiles = C:\temp (a folder I install)
also I have progwork, sortwork, editwork the same.
For years, all the .tmp files went into C:\temp and were deleted in the
program when appropriate.
Now, some offices have all these files going into the default folder on
the server, and some have them going into appdata/local/temp.
Why doesn't my config file control all these? It used to.
Maybe because C:\temp does not exist on the computers of these offices.
A default installation of newer windows have a different location of the default
temp folder

Regards
Bernhard Sander
Foxteeth Doc
2010-05-06 11:57:02 UTC
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Nope... they all have the C:\temp folder... it's part of our installation.
Post by Bernhard Sander
Hi Wade,
Post by Wade
My config file has tmpfiles = C:\temp (a folder I install)
also I have progwork, sortwork, editwork the same.
For years, all the .tmp files went into C:\temp and were deleted in the
program when appropriate.
Now, some offices have all these files going into the default folder on
the server, and some have them going into appdata/local/temp.
Why doesn't my config file control all these? It used to.
Maybe because C:\temp does not exist on the computers of these offices.
A default installation of newer windows have a different location of the
default temp folder
Regards
Bernhard Sander
Gianni Turri
2010-05-06 12:51:02 UTC
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Are you sure that they are still using your config.fpw file?

Gianni
Post by Foxteeth Doc
Nope... they all have the C:\temp folder... it's part of our installation.
Post by Bernhard Sander
Hi Wade,
Post by Wade
My config file has tmpfiles = C:\temp (a folder I install)
also I have progwork, sortwork, editwork the same.
For years, all the .tmp files went into C:\temp and were deleted in the
program when appropriate.
Now, some offices have all these files going into the default folder on
the server, and some have them going into appdata/local/temp.
Why doesn't my config file control all these? It used to.
Maybe because C:\temp does not exist on the computers of these offices.
A default installation of newer windows have a different location of the
default temp folder
Regards
Bernhard Sander
Wade
2010-05-06 21:30:08 UTC
Permalink
The config file is built-in to the app and is the same since 1997. On a lan
with 6 workstations running vfp6 or 9, the breakdown of operating systems
is:
Win7 home (ignores setting, uses appdata/local/temp instead of C:\temp)
XP pro sp3 (ignores setting, uses appdata/local/temp instead of C:\temp)
XP pro sp2 (uses C:\temp)
XP home sp2 (uses C:\temp)
Vista home basic (uses C:\temp)

Some offices are also reporting that the default folder (on the server) is
getting the .tmp data. I have seen this when I download their backup data
for storage.

I don't mind if the data goes to appdata/local/temp, as apparently windows
(some versions) is taking care of disposing of it. ... but when it goes into
the default folder it can lead to real problems later on.
If anyone has a better way to store the temp data, I'd love to know.
Post by Gianni Turri
Are you sure that they are still using your config.fpw file?
Gianni
On Thu, 6 May 2010 07:57:02 -0400, "Foxteeth Doc"
Post by Foxteeth Doc
Nope... they all have the C:\temp folder... it's part of our installation.
Post by Bernhard Sander
Hi Wade,
Post by Wade
My config file has tmpfiles = C:\temp (a folder I install)
also I have progwork, sortwork, editwork the same.
For years, all the .tmp files went into C:\temp and were deleted in the
program when appropriate.
Now, some offices have all these files going into the default folder on
the server, and some have them going into appdata/local/temp.
Why doesn't my config file control all these? It used to.
Maybe because C:\temp does not exist on the computers of these offices.
A default installation of newer windows have a different location of the
default temp folder
Regards
Bernhard Sander
Al Marino
2010-05-07 15:13:40 UTC
Permalink
we use c:\xxtemp, probably for all the same reasons
so far we have had no problems on xp 2/3, vista h/p/u, or 7 h/u (a few
hundred installations)
in all cases where we have had occasion to check (remote control), it has
always written to the temp folder

the only thing I can think of is that the installation creates the temp
folder with all permissions for everyone
and is not named "temp"

al
Post by Wade
The config file is built-in to the app and is the same since 1997. On a
lan with 6 workstations running vfp6 or 9, the breakdown of operating
Win7 home (ignores setting, uses appdata/local/temp instead of C:\temp)
XP pro sp3 (ignores setting, uses appdata/local/temp instead of C:\temp)
XP pro sp2 (uses C:\temp)
XP home sp2 (uses C:\temp)
Vista home basic (uses C:\temp)
Some offices are also reporting that the default folder (on the server) is
getting the .tmp data. I have seen this when I download their backup data
for storage.
I don't mind if the data goes to appdata/local/temp, as apparently windows
(some versions) is taking care of disposing of it. ... but when it goes
into the default folder it can lead to real problems later on.
If anyone has a better way to store the temp data, I'd love to know.
Post by Gianni Turri
Are you sure that they are still using your config.fpw file?
Gianni
On Thu, 6 May 2010 07:57:02 -0400, "Foxteeth Doc"
Post by Foxteeth Doc
Nope... they all have the C:\temp folder... it's part of our
installation.
Post by Bernhard Sander
Hi Wade,
Post by Wade
My config file has tmpfiles = C:\temp (a folder I install)
also I have progwork, sortwork, editwork the same.
For years, all the .tmp files went into C:\temp and were deleted in the
program when appropriate.
Now, some offices have all these files going into the default folder on
the server, and some have them going into appdata/local/temp.
Why doesn't my config file control all these? It used to.
Maybe because C:\temp does not exist on the computers of these offices.
A default installation of newer windows have a different location of the
default temp folder
Regards
Bernhard Sander
Wade
2010-05-07 15:45:02 UTC
Permalink
Nope... always temp folder in C, like yours. It worked flawlessly for 15
yrs, and has been a problem in some offices more recently (the last 2 yrs.).
Our own facility with 7 workstations and a server is now seeing the problem
(not sure how long it has been going on because until we saw some .tmp files
in the default folder we saw no reason to check it). We have deleted
foxuser, but no change. We use inno installer and the temp folder is always
installed. So..... since you use essentially the same technique, I wonder
how others do it.
Post by Al Marino
we use c:\xxtemp, probably for all the same reasons
so far we have had no problems on xp 2/3, vista h/p/u, or 7 h/u (a few
hundred installations)
in all cases where we have had occasion to check (remote control), it has
always written to the temp folder
the only thing I can think of is that the installation creates the temp
folder with all permissions for everyone
and is not named "temp"
al
Post by Wade
The config file is built-in to the app and is the same since 1997. On a
lan with 6 workstations running vfp6 or 9, the breakdown of operating
Win7 home (ignores setting, uses appdata/local/temp instead of C:\temp)
XP pro sp3 (ignores setting, uses appdata/local/temp instead of C:\temp)
XP pro sp2 (uses C:\temp)
XP home sp2 (uses C:\temp)
Vista home basic (uses C:\temp)
Some offices are also reporting that the default folder (on the server)
is getting the .tmp data. I have seen this when I download their backup
data for storage.
I don't mind if the data goes to appdata/local/temp, as apparently
windows (some versions) is taking care of disposing of it. ... but when
it goes into the default folder it can lead to real problems later on.
If anyone has a better way to store the temp data, I'd love to know.
Post by Gianni Turri
Are you sure that they are still using your config.fpw file?
Gianni
On Thu, 6 May 2010 07:57:02 -0400, "Foxteeth Doc"
Post by Foxteeth Doc
Nope... they all have the C:\temp folder... it's part of our
installation.
Post by Bernhard Sander
Hi Wade,
Post by Wade
My config file has tmpfiles = C:\temp (a folder I install)
also I have progwork, sortwork, editwork the same.
For years, all the .tmp files went into C:\temp and were deleted in the
program when appropriate.
Now, some offices have all these files going into the default folder on
the server, and some have them going into appdata/local/temp.
Why doesn't my config file control all these? It used to.
Maybe because C:\temp does not exist on the computers of these offices.
A default installation of newer windows have a different location of the
default temp folder
Regards
Bernhard Sander
Al Marino
2010-05-07 16:59:00 UTC
Permalink
even tho we have not seen it yet, you have me concerned !
this must have something to do with windows security, possibly UAC
since I don't have the problem I can't test

if you find out what is going on, please let me know !!!
perhaps I can help find a solution

does the problem still exist if the app is run as administrator ?
what does %appdata% point to
if the temp folder is set to "Full control" for everyone, does the problem
still exist ?
is your inno setup like ?... Name: {sd}\iftemp; Permissions: everyone-modify

when this newsgroup closes, please email directly

thanks
al
Post by Wade
Nope... always temp folder in C, like yours. It worked flawlessly for 15
yrs, and has been a problem in some offices more recently (the last 2
yrs.). Our own facility with 7 workstations and a server is now seeing the
problem (not sure how long it has been going on because until we saw some
.tmp files in the default folder we saw no reason to check it). We have
deleted foxuser, but no change. We use inno installer and the temp folder
is always installed. So..... since you use essentially the same technique,
I wonder how others do it.
Post by Al Marino
we use c:\xxtemp, probably for all the same reasons
so far we have had no problems on xp 2/3, vista h/p/u, or 7 h/u (a few
hundred installations)
in all cases where we have had occasion to check (remote control), it has
always written to the temp folder
the only thing I can think of is that the installation creates the temp
folder with all permissions for everyone
and is not named "temp"
al
Post by Wade
The config file is built-in to the app and is the same since 1997. On a
lan with 6 workstations running vfp6 or 9, the breakdown of operating
Win7 home (ignores setting, uses appdata/local/temp instead of C:\temp)
XP pro sp3 (ignores setting, uses appdata/local/temp instead of C:\temp)
XP pro sp2 (uses C:\temp)
XP home sp2 (uses C:\temp)
Vista home basic (uses C:\temp)
Some offices are also reporting that the default folder (on the server)
is getting the .tmp data. I have seen this when I download their backup
data for storage.
I don't mind if the data goes to appdata/local/temp, as apparently
windows (some versions) is taking care of disposing of it. ... but when
it goes into the default folder it can lead to real problems later on.
If anyone has a better way to store the temp data, I'd love to know.
Post by Gianni Turri
Are you sure that they are still using your config.fpw file?
Gianni
On Thu, 6 May 2010 07:57:02 -0400, "Foxteeth Doc"
Post by Foxteeth Doc
Nope... they all have the C:\temp folder... it's part of our installation.
Post by Bernhard Sander
Hi Wade,
Post by Wade
My config file has tmpfiles = C:\temp (a folder I install)
also I have progwork, sortwork, editwork the same.
For years, all the .tmp files went into C:\temp and were deleted in the
program when appropriate.
Now, some offices have all these files going into the default folder on
the server, and some have them going into appdata/local/temp.
Why doesn't my config file control all these? It used to.
Maybe because C:\temp does not exist on the computers of these offices.
A default installation of newer windows have a different location of the
default temp folder
Regards
Bernhard Sander
Wade
2010-05-07 17:40:45 UTC
Permalink
one thing I noticed in the development environment of vfp6&9, when I changed
the default location for temp files to C:\temp and saved, the development
environment later defaulted back to ...\localdata\temp. However, when I
changed it to C:\windows\temp, it stayed at that new default. It's like
there's something wrong with the config file with tmpfiles = c:\temp not
being recognized. It was fine for many years, so it's a real mystery. Since
some offices have the temp files going into the default folder sometimes, I
too am really concerned even though it doesn't happen in many offices.
Post by Al Marino
even tho we have not seen it yet, you have me concerned !
this must have something to do with windows security, possibly UAC
since I don't have the problem I can't test
if you find out what is going on, please let me know !!!
perhaps I can help find a solution
does the problem still exist if the app is run as administrator ?
what does %appdata% point to
if the temp folder is set to "Full control" for everyone, does the problem
still exist ?
everyone-modify
when this newsgroup closes, please email directly
thanks
al
Post by Wade
Nope... always temp folder in C, like yours. It worked flawlessly for 15
yrs, and has been a problem in some offices more recently (the last 2
yrs.). Our own facility with 7 workstations and a server is now seeing
the problem (not sure how long it has been going on because until we saw
some .tmp files in the default folder we saw no reason to check it). We
have deleted foxuser, but no change. We use inno installer and the temp
folder is always installed. So..... since you use essentially the same
technique, I wonder how others do it.
Post by Al Marino
we use c:\xxtemp, probably for all the same reasons
so far we have had no problems on xp 2/3, vista h/p/u, or 7 h/u (a few
hundred installations)
in all cases where we have had occasion to check (remote control), it
has always written to the temp folder
the only thing I can think of is that the installation creates the temp
folder with all permissions for everyone
and is not named "temp"
al
Post by Wade
The config file is built-in to the app and is the same since 1997. On a
lan with 6 workstations running vfp6 or 9, the breakdown of operating
Win7 home (ignores setting, uses appdata/local/temp instead of C:\temp)
XP pro sp3 (ignores setting, uses appdata/local/temp instead of C:\temp)
XP pro sp2 (uses C:\temp)
XP home sp2 (uses C:\temp)
Vista home basic (uses C:\temp)
Some offices are also reporting that the default folder (on the server)
is getting the .tmp data. I have seen this when I download their
backup data for storage.
I don't mind if the data goes to appdata/local/temp, as apparently
windows (some versions) is taking care of disposing of it. ... but when
it goes into the default folder it can lead to real problems later on.
If anyone has a better way to store the temp data, I'd love to know.
Post by Gianni Turri
Are you sure that they are still using your config.fpw file?
Gianni
On Thu, 6 May 2010 07:57:02 -0400, "Foxteeth Doc"
Post by Foxteeth Doc
Nope... they all have the C:\temp folder... it's part of our installation.
Post by Bernhard Sander
Hi Wade,
Post by Wade
My config file has tmpfiles = C:\temp (a folder I install)
also I have progwork, sortwork, editwork the same.
For years, all the .tmp files went into C:\temp and were deleted in the
program when appropriate.
Now, some offices have all these files going into the default folder on
the server, and some have them going into appdata/local/temp.
Why doesn't my config file control all these? It used to.
Maybe because C:\temp does not exist on the computers of these offices.
A default installation of newer windows have a different location of the
default temp folder
Regards
Bernhard Sander
Pastorhank
2010-05-06 20:27:54 UTC
Permalink
Are these Vista machines? One thing I found was that even if I was
able to create a folder in my installation Windows would not let me
write data anywhere except the appdata folders and especially off the
root drive.
Wade
2010-05-08 03:02:49 UTC
Permalink
nope.. they all have c:\temp. The setting works in some offices on some
computers. In our 7 workstation office, the setting works on 4 computers and
not on the others. It works on vista but not on win7. It works on xp sp2 but
not sp3. I'm hoping someone has some insight into this, because sometimes
the temp files are written to the default folder on the server. Also, the
intel Mac doesn't respect the setting either.
Post by Bernhard Sander
Hi Wade,
Post by Wade
My config file has tmpfiles = C:\temp (a folder I install)
also I have progwork, sortwork, editwork the same.
For years, all the .tmp files went into C:\temp and were deleted in the
program when appropriate.
Now, some offices have all these files going into the default folder on
the server, and some have them going into appdata/local/temp.
Why doesn't my config file control all these? It used to.
Maybe because C:\temp does not exist on the computers of these offices.
A default installation of newer windows have a different location of the
default temp folder
Regards
Bernhard Sander
Wade
2010-05-09 19:58:57 UTC
Permalink
Well, now this is a quirky clue perhaps. While most networked computers will
use tmpfiles = C:\temp in the config file, some workstations would change
and use ..userdata\local\temp or the default folder on the server for
temporary files. HOWEVER, when I changed the setting to tmpfiles = C:\FTemp
(a folder I added), all the workstations I tested respected the tmpfiles
folder. What is it about C:\temp??? Very weird.
Post by Wade
nope.. they all have c:\temp. The setting works in some offices on some
computers. In our 7 workstation office, the setting works on 4 computers
and not on the others. It works on vista but not on win7. It works on xp
sp2 but not sp3. I'm hoping someone has some insight into this, because
sometimes the temp files are written to the default folder on the server.
Also, the intel Mac doesn't respect the setting either.
Post by Bernhard Sander
Hi Wade,
Post by Wade
My config file has tmpfiles = C:\temp (a folder I install)
also I have progwork, sortwork, editwork the same.
For years, all the .tmp files went into C:\temp and were deleted in the
program when appropriate.
Now, some offices have all these files going into the default folder on
the server, and some have them going into appdata/local/temp.
Why doesn't my config file control all these? It used to.
Maybe because C:\temp does not exist on the computers of these offices.
A default installation of newer windows have a different location of the
default temp folder
Regards
Bernhard Sander
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